{"id":158,"date":"2020-08-08T18:45:03","date_gmt":"2020-08-08T22:45:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/thenetworksdown.com\/?p=158"},"modified":"2025-11-26T11:24:53","modified_gmt":"2025-11-26T16:24:53","slug":"ccie-security-v5-0-the-journey","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thenetworksdown.com\/?p=158","title":{"rendered":"CCIE Security V5.0 &#8211; The Journey"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>My journey to achieving the CCIE in Security.  Strap in kids&#8230; it&#8217;s a long one.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" src=\"https:\/\/thenetworksdown.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/ccie-security-morning-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2274\" srcset=\"https:\/\/thenetworksdown.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/ccie-security-morning-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/thenetworksdown.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/ccie-security-morning-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/thenetworksdown.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/ccie-security-morning-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/thenetworksdown.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/ccie-security-morning-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/thenetworksdown.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/ccie-security-morning-2048x1536.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Ok so, it&#8217;s only right that I set the stage for this.  Most of you who know me on a personal level, know that I&#8217;ve said quite a bit that &#8220;I&#8217;m not a security guy&#8221;.  I even bought the domain to just prove the point.  Seriously, I own <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/www.notasecurityguy.com\" target=\"_blank\">www.notasecurityguy.com<\/a>.  See?  Did you click the link, or did you hover first?  I actually migrated most of that site&#8217;s content (which never actually made it out of testing) onto this blog which will encompass all of my previous writings.  Anyway, it&#8217;s kind of tough to defend the fact that I&#8217;m not a security guy when one of my CCIEs is in Security and I&#8217;m responsible for a boat-load of Network Security related items at my current place of employment.  Ok let&#8217;s nip that tangent there.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This certification track&#8217;s journey &#8220;officially&#8221; started in May of 2018.  I always say &#8220;officially&#8221; started on all of my certifications since they all really built on my original CCNA in R&amp;S in 2005 and war wounds that I had collected along the years.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I went through a few articles from the internet, reviewed my past experiences and watched <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ine.com\" target=\"_blank\">INE<\/a>&#8216;s CCNA Security course.  On June 15th of 2018, I went to my favorite testing facility in NYC and was able to pass the CCNA Security Written Exam and get the cert.  I was happy there, however there was a growing demand at my job to do more security.  WAIT, let me rephrase that, network security.  To get to my CCNP there were 4 exams I needed to take.  My study efforts really kicked into gear while I was recovering from surgery while on long term medical leave late in 2018.  Because most people would turn to growing their network security skill-set when they can&#8217;t stand up by themselves.  Right?  The video courses and books I went through definitely helped pass the time as both my body and mind were healing.  The formula was basically the same.  Studying for a while, labbing with EVE and reading a bit.  Following these steps, I was able to pass all four exams between September of 2018 and February 9th of 2019.  So now I was officially a CCNP in the Security track.  Then came the &#8220;candid&#8221; talk with my manager about getting a CCIE in the Security track.  We had a training budget set aside so I picked up the two bootcamp courses that INE offered for both the CCIE Security Written and Lab.  I was now clamping down on the fact that I would have to face the Written and Lab exams again by the end of the year (I was up for a re-certification on December 18th of 2019).  I sat for the Written exam a couple of days after I finished the INE bootcamp in March of 2019 and ended up passing it on my first attempt.  Passing that exam also re-certified by Routing and Switching CCIE another 2 years, which was cool.  And come  April, it was more reading and supplementing the reading with labbing and labbing and reading&#8230; and more reading of blogs and Cisco Press books&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/thenetworksdown.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/AKRD2953-768x1024.jpg\" alt=\"Gucci-Asking-For-Help\" class=\"wp-image-175\" style=\"width:384px;height:512px\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Even my study buddy was asking for help.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>So, like most of my long term plans, they come to me when I am not thinking about them, and usual when I have nothing within arms reach to write these plans on.  So, here is where I hatched my actual plan and rough strategy for the CCIE Security track&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/thenetworksdown.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/ccie-sec-napkin-499x1024.jpg\" alt=\"Security Plan\" class=\"wp-image-159\" style=\"width:250px;height:512px\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">I know&#8230; Super in depth plan right?  Let&#8217;s see how I actually pulled this off.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>My initial goal was to take a pass the Lab by September 27th of 2019, building in at least 2 retake dates before the end of the year.  This was so I could begin &#8220;officially&#8221; studying for my CCDE at the beginning of 2020.  I&#8217;m not gonna lie to you&#8230; I did not pass the exam on September 27th.  To boot, I took the lab on October 9th and failed it.  So that was quite a blow to my confidence level.  I got the dreaded results email with a link to my grade.  <strong>Pass \/ Pass \/ Fail <\/strong>was what it said on my iPhone&#8217;s screen while it was still dark out the morning after my first attempt.  If you&#8217;ve never seen one of those screens before, here it is:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/thenetworksdown.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/sec-pass_pass_fail-1024x473.jpg\" alt=\"Security-ppf\" class=\"wp-image-176\" style=\"width:768px;height:355px\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I took &#8220;a full week off&#8221; from studying and trolled ebay to buy some gear to supplement the Labs I had built myself in EVE-NG. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><code><em>(Note: Let me just throw out there in my own experience... There is no substitute for real gear for labbing and learning from physical equipment.  Don't get me wrong, I use EVE-NG constantly for full scale labs and to help keep ConEd at bay, but for this type of exam, just like I did for R&amp;S and DataCenter, I bought some gear secondhand from eBay and wired it up {and added interfaces to EVE-NG as passthroughs} to hit the technologies that I just felt uncomfortable with during the lab exam.)<\/em><\/code><\/p>\n\n\n<p>Here is the physical gear that extended from my Virtual EVE Labs:<br \/><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-160\" style=\"width: 700px;\" src=\"https:\/\/thenetworksdown.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/ccie-sec-lab.jpg\" alt=\"CCIE-Sec-Ebay\"><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>4 &#8211; ASA 5512X Firewalls<\/li>\n<li>1 &#8211; Catalyst 3850 PoE Switch<\/li>\n<li>1 &#8211; Catalyst 3750e &#8211; Non PoE Switch<\/li>\n<li>1 &#8211; WAP for the Virtual WLC (bridged through EVE)<\/li>\n<li>1 &#8211; IP Phone (not pictured here) to register to the Virtual call manager in EVE. <em>This came from work with a busted lcd screen, but it worked like a charm.<\/em><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n<p>After I got my equipment, lab dates were extremely scarce since the official end of V5 of Security was slated for March of 2020. (Ah yes, life pre-covid).  I checked every morning on the train going into work. I checked 2x a day at work and then twice per night while labbing at night. You know, when you hit that wall.  And everything should be right&#8230; Yet it&#8217;s not working?  FINALLY I was able to secure a date of December 10th, 2019.  And that date was only about 65 days away.  So after trimming my nights and weekends down like a cell phone plan in the 90s, I started racking up serious hours getting faster and faster building ASAs from scratch and building configs in a modular fashion, so they could be cloned and reused with minimal effort.  Configuring Tunnel-groups and IKEv2 became second nature.  Until I pasted the configs in, and then the parser threw errors&#8230;  There was some frustration.  Ok; there was a lot of frustration. Many nights I would look up at 10pm, and say &#8216;OK just 20 more minutes&#8217;.  I&#8217;d lab a bit, and I&#8217;d look up again, but it would be 3am. This also explained why I was so tired in December\u2026  The morning before my exam I caught an uber to the airport at about 5am.  So as luck would have it, on my way to the airport, I got an email from work saying that we had just purchased another company.  Which was a blessing in disguise. It put my mind to thinking about how the heck I was going to start establishing connectivity and how many offices they had, who were their internet providers, etc.  More VPNs!  Just what I want!  So that helped on the plane ride down\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It&#8217;s always a toss-up for me the night before a CCIE Lab attempt.  I&#8217;m usually tired, so I try to lay down and relax; but then my brain kicks in begging me for &#8220;just one more lab&#8221;.  Just one more flashcard read-through.  I stayed at a different hotel the second time in Richardson for this attempt.  My hotel was about 8 minutes from the testing center.  Since I had been there a couple of months before, I knew the route.  Also, I had also scouted it the afternoon before, to make sure that there was no road work or detours.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So the lab environment was the same as last time I was in Texas (I still liked the RTP setup better, but that site had closed since I got my R&amp;S in 2015).  So head in, leave everything in the back of the room and park yourself in front of your best friend (the computer) for the next 8 hours.  The proctor gave us the green light to start and I was able to complete the troubleshooting with 90 minutes after verifying everything 2 times.  The second round of verification is very important, to make sure you haven&#8217;t broken any of the rules by solving any of the other tickets.  &lt;Just my 2 cents&#8230;&gt;  The Diagnostic section was a long one.  I&#8217;m a very <strong>kinesthetic<\/strong> engineer, so pointing and clicking through horribly formatted diagrams, text files and crap screenshots is a challenge for me.  And to boot, it&#8217;s a fixed time to get it all done.  I was able to get that done in about 55 of the allotted 60 minutes.  Then, came my old arch nemesis&#8230; &#8220;Retep&#8221;.   I mean, the Configuration section.  The topology loaded and I froze for a second.  Internally saying &#8220;how the **** am I going to get this all done?&#8221;  Then the other side of my brain took over and said &#8220;Hey, you&#8230;  It&#8217;s just another lab.  Do what we do best.  Read and analyze the requirements, and break it down into smaller problems.  Then, reverse engineer where necessary.&#8221;  And that&#8217;s exactly what I did.  I read the requirements PDF twice, and started fleshing out configs in notepad.  By lunch, I felt a lot better than my previous attempt.  Most of my core functionality and connectivity was there, and I was setting up the overlay VPNs right before our lunch arrived.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Shortly after lunch, something odd happened.  I got to the bottom of my task sheet that I had built for myself.  The requirements had all been configured.  I blinked a bit.  Looked at the clock and saw that I had a lot of time left.  I took a short 5 minute break, grabbed some water and then checked the configs one more time.  My VPN clients looked good, NGFW rules seemed to be working, and core routing seemed solid.  So I did what every engineer does when they think they&#8217;re done; I checked it again.  I made a few minor changes to the Multi-context firewalls, cleared my ISE authentications (to prove they worked after a port bounce) and then started to save all of my configs (for the 200th time).  I called the proctor over and submitted the config section for grading.  Driving back to the hotel I over-analyzed everything (as per usual) and just hung out outside for a little bit while talking on the phone with pops.  &#8220;How&#8217;d you do this time&#8221; he asked me.  &#8220;Well, I guess we&#8217;ll see.  I got through the config this time&#8221;.  He said &#8220;Well, that&#8217;s new&#8230;  I thought you said you weren&#8217;t a security guy&#8230;&#8221;  Love that guy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I passed out early at like 7pm that evening watching Burn Notice and woke up around 11:30pm, craving yogurt (Burn Notice reference).  The email  had come in just after 11:00pm.  I logged into the CCIE portal, and it dragged its&#8217; feet.  (For some unknown reason, hotel wifi is ridiculously slow whenever you&#8217;re checking your CCIE Lab results, I feel like that&#8217;s on purpose.  This was also the case in RTP.  Just saying&#8230;)  The page loaded, and it said &#8220;Congratulations on passing the CCIE Security Lab Exam!&#8221;  I feel like as I&#8217;ve told several of you before, passing the Security Lab <em>was a relief<\/em>.  It felt like a huge weight was taken off of my shoulders.  My brain actually relaxed.  I can&#8217;t prove the feeling to you, but it literally felt like my mind expanded, after being full.  Like it exhaled.  I started spreading the word and promptly passed back out&#8230;  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\"><em>Here&#8217;s the screenshot that helped me fall back asleep:<\/em><br><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-178\" style=\"width: 400px;\" src=\"https:\/\/thenetworksdown.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/CCIE-sec-pass2.png\" alt=\"CCIE-sec-pass2\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So there we have it.  A not so abridged version and high level overview of how I got my (second) CCIE in Security.  <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>My journey to achieving the CCIE in Security. 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